Broadcast Type: Interview; Professor André Duvenhage from North West University in Potchefstroom joins as a political analyst to discuss MK Party and President Zuma's youth day address.
alright let's get let's get the issue that to developed yesterday you zuma know president the president of the mk party principal made address the issues of the youth youth day on this and there was the launch of youth league of the mk party then he spoke and about other things in it touched particular on the issues of the seven se gees that the mk so party has had let's talk about that firstly introduce guest professor my andré duvenhage who's a political analyst as you know profit duvenage with you good to chat once again on the national pulse assaf nice talking to you from the north west university from potchefstroom thank you so much right now let's do this i'm gonna first play the leader of the mk party president zuma's central message that he delivered at the june sixteenth mk youth league get rally then we'll prof duvenage to to comment look if you seriously you'll realise that if one of we have us one of us let me just tell you secretary general no we thanda are mokone we don't care we our talk about party if you don't know command on high on demand okay so just you a sense of what to give said you was said he know you know since many people this is of course president zuma right of president the mk party saying well football no nobody is bigger than the mk party he said then we've had many people leaving party the because of the wrongdoing as they only the high did command can talk about doing well and who's who's not protest people want to for nothing things they know nothing about when we remove someone out we don't do it of nothing we don't share what they did in what's wrong public but then to that is linked that the point that he made yes we've had seven secretary general he didn't specifically mention floyd shibambo but the insinuation amongst many people is like clearly talking about he was him because he was supposed be moved from the to member s g to a of parliament that hasn't quite happened let's then bring so in profit duvenage connect with you good to so i mean the sense of what you've got happened yesterday what do you make of president zuma's making to that point his own constituency and sort of about the fact hinting that you know we're charge and in we may love you're if you but if you do wrong you're out well you know when i was listening your interpretation and also because my zulu is not that on specific level it is a number things it's clear of to me is the first one that there is not a big difference between jacob zuma and the mk party basically and the mk party is synonymous with zuma jacob if he talk the high command the party of to whom is he referring basically to himself and probably another individual or because two if the secretary general the most important position within the party is excluded high from the command who is the high court the so high command is jacob zuma and its ruling the party the way he governs africa south and in our academic literature in political science we have a phenomenon we weak call the state and one of the things are leaders doing in a weak state environment to is reposition or exclude leadership all the time if they are in a competitive environment some with of the leaders so you put either in a him position or you exclude him now what is interesting and i pick it also think up from the site of floyd shibambo who said that he was ordered by jacob zuma to go to malawi to visit to to the specific rivalry and he only did this and on the basis of that he was fired my take on it quite different is we must first look at structure of the party the it's patriotic patrick say that that he went actually on behest of jacob of haven't picked that up before was i it read it in the media he said that that he was seen zuma by jacob to go to twitter malawi reported it was that way i don't know if he speak the truth on that but it was reported that way but i believe did send if he him or he didn't send him the outcome would have been the same and to try and understand it you understand need to patriot appeal cultures and in that context the leader and the structures are not differentiated very the leader in a way is also the structure so there is a very low level of what we call institutionalisation therefore if you go against the leader you will be in trouble and i believe if you against the leaders go daughter you are probably also in some sort of trouble and this happens okay so if i can push very quickly as we get to news time therefore we know that he's not the now any longer floyd s g shibambo he's not just ordinary politician an he had a senior the e f position within f before that with the a n c now of course the moved onto mk party would the plan was that he be he would be redeployed to parliament as as an m deadline p there was a for that last week that happened hasn't quite there was no talk about where his going yesterday when they spoke about the so sdgs where do you think his lies political future i think he's on his own i heard rumours that he would like to establish his own party and then we take into must also consideration there's the investigation v b of the s bank much and he is very implicated in this is also an ongoing process so i think floyd is trouble in serious and ford needs to reinvent himself at the moment because there is no him within home for the e f f how there is also does no home within how does he the mps reinvent himself like he do well what does the only thing he do is can to establish a party because all he did was to organise and mobilise support for political purposes i'm not seen and pictured bring him in a career outside of politics now he has the youth on his side maybe in some way he can try make a real to arrangement with f but the e f i think at the moment this is probably highly unlikely but it doesn't to me seem if julius malema is standing strongly very at the moment so probably need some support maybe they can compromise it's but i think unlikely scenario the other options establish own party your and how get there we much support will it don't know let's leave to that prof andré it duvenhage your thank you for time here on the national pulse get the news let's